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Damn That Man Made Global Warming!

Man made Global warming is one big pain in the ass, isn't it?

I wonder how long it will be until the "man is causing global warming" religion start feeding people the idea of global cooling again?
 
Never mind, I don't want to start something I'll end up winning another debate over.  I'll just keep the information I have standing by if anyone dares to even challenge my opposition and disbelief of man made caused global warming. 

When are people ever going to wise up to the bullshit notion of man made global warming and realize it is nothing more than the biggest deception ever fed to them all because our law makers crave even more political power and the money which goes along with it?

By the way, I just farted.  Do you know what that means?  I'm generating a carbon footprint. 
Excuse me, Al Gore?  Call your office.

Heh.

Print | posted @ Tuesday, February 12, 2008 6:33 AM

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Gravatar # Genuinely interested
by AxsDeny at 2/12/2008 2:32 PM
I'd be interested in hearing what your beliefs are based upon.
Please cite your sources specifically so that I can read the data that you have used. URLs and standard bibliographic ntation will do just fine.
Thanks!
Gravatar # re: Damn That Man Made Global Warming!
by Braden at 2/12/2008 8:55 PM
Absolutely. First, we have the talk about Newsweek magazine's 1975 piece on global cooling. Of course, they changed their tune after about the year 1979 saying it was global warming all along. It was? So if that's the case, why the piece on global cooling in the first place?

See the PDF here:

http://ussenterprise.blogdns.net/downloads/newsweek_coolingworld.pdf

Moving on, space.com (http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/sun_output_030320.html) has a piece on global warming being influenced by an increase in radiation coming from none other than the sun itself. The piece of course also details that many question the evidence provided by satellite data saying the technology is limited because of the small amount of time such satellite technologies have existed. Possible. But there's one sentence in the piece which stands out from all the rest. I quote:

"Changes in the solar cycle -- and solar output -- are known to cause short-term climate change on Earth."

So, in 1975, we were being sold the scare of global cooling, followed by global warming shortly thereafter. Hmmm...changes in the solar cycle...short term climate change...ring a bell? It does with me, and it doesn't take a genius to put two and two together.

And last but definitely not least, we have this:

http://ussenterprise.blogdns.net/downloads/FireandIce.pdf

Global warming? Sure, I believe temperatures are rising due to natural cycles within the earth and sun, but the earth also goes through cooling cycles, as it has for millions of years, as evidenced by the coming and going of what we call an "ice age".

And finally, let me ask you this. Why is it scientists cannot explain other bodies of our solar system getting warmer such as Neptune's moon Triton, or how about Jupiter and Pluto? How about Mars?

Scientists really have no idea how to explain the sudden rise in temperatures on the other planetary bodies in our solar system, but isn't it convenient to pin the blame on our own planet's sudden rise in heat on the human species itself? Damn convenient, if you ask me. In fact, it is so convenient one might even come up with a way to profit from it. Isn't that right, Mr. Al Gore?

Here's the deal, and you can take this to the bank:

Scientists claim to have no real explanation(s) for what is causing our solar system's rise in temperatures, although the answer to that question has been staring them in the face all this time. It's called the sun. That has to be the only logical explanation, especially since you and I both know the planet Earth, along with other solar bodies, is going through a warming phase.

And that's where people like Al Gore, along with the rest of those with great political influence/power come along. They crave power and money, and what better way to get it by selling the populace the notion that global warming is all our fault and we need to change the way we live our daily lives....that is, all the while these same people with great political influence all cart themselves around in their fancy fuel hungry jet planes, limousines and SUVs. And let us not forget about their huge mansions with high utility bills, either.

Lastly, we have the global warming conference, where over 15,000+ politicians, journalists, environmental activists along with Hollywood actors traveled to Bali, Indonesia for a global warming conference.

Here's the absolutely most laughable part in all of this, and I quote:

"Nobody denies this is an important event, but huge numbers of people are going, and their emissions are probably going to be greater than a small African country" -Chris Goodall - Author of the book "How to Live a Low-Carbon Life"

Nothing like leading by example, eh folks? Need I say more? I didn't think so.
Gravatar # Can't wait!
by Jake Krohn at 2/12/2008 8:56 PM
Oh, hey, did you get the memo? It's winter. Generally a time for cold.

I, too, look forward to your report.
Gravatar # re: Damn That Man Made Global Warming!
by Braden at 2/12/2008 9:35 PM
Jake:

Why yes I did! Did you send in your TPS Reports yet? Well, what the hell you doing on here then, son? Get on it.
Gravatar # re: Damn That Man Made Global Warming!
by Jake at 2/12/2008 10:33 PM
1. Newsweek is hardly science.

2. Solar irradiance has stayed quite constant.

3. You're citing a piece by the BMI, which was founded by the Media Research Center. Their funding definitely comes from one direction. Something like that should be taken with a big grain of salt.

I'm wary of people exploiting crisis situations for their own personal gains too (Haliburton and the war machine comes to mind). But what of the other side? Are you content to let the oil and energy companies continue to fund their propaganda machines and political allies to help maintain the status quo, and thus their profits?
Gravatar # re: Damn That Man Made Global Warming!
by Braden at 2/12/2008 11:16 PM
Jake, I find it ironic your most recent comment appeared in my comment system as spam. Very Interesting.

I just love the little jab you stuck in citing "Haliburton" and the "war machine." I guess you brushed up on how to stick the "War in Iraq" into every debate you partake in via dailykos.com, no?

So it's safe for me to assume you think it's okay for those with political influence (politicians, world leaders, actors, etc.) to cart themselves around in their fuel hungry limousines, jet planes, and SUVS. I don't see those very same fancy elitists complaining about the carbon footprint they themselves each leave - after all, they're all exempt! But then again, the rest of us are expected to comply with whatever they say. That's not "Do as I say, not as I do," is it? Of course not.

When are you going to wake up and realize man made global warming has become nothing more than a money making religion? Just look at how defensive those are who support man made global warming - hell, man made global warming has become a full time career for many so it's no wonder they are so touchy about it.

Speaking of the oil companies:

Are you content at supporting the environmentalist movement in not allowing we as a country to drill for our own oil within our own boundaries? Or, do you delight in sending your money to the Middle East? Ever notice nothing ever satisfies the environmentalists? Windmills? Nope! They kill birds! Nuclear power? Too dangerous! Coal? It's dirty! Solar? Not efficient enough? The list goes on and on. If it were all up to the environmentalists, we'd all be in the dark ages again living in caves.

And speaking of oil company profits, I am confident if you were a shareholder in X Oil Company, you wouldn't be bitching about "their profits," would you? Especially when that dividend check arrived in the mail.

Nice try Jake, but no cigar. ;)
Gravatar # re: Damn That Man Made Global Warming!
by Jake at 2/13/2008 7:01 AM

So it's safe for me to assume you think it's okay for those with political influence (politicians, world leaders, actors, etc.) to cart themselves around in their fuel hungry limousines, jet planes, and SUVS.


Of course not. That's hypocrisy at its highest level. I'm as disappointed as you are when I see that kind of behavior going on.


Are you content at supporting the environmentalist movement in not allowing we as a country to drill for our own oil within our own boundaries?


Yes. We've argued about this before. I believe it wouldn't do us much good anyway.


Or, do you delight in sending your money to the Middle East?


Again, of course not. That's why I've stopped driving my car, and plan to sell it soon. Oil still plays a big part in helping me live the way that I do, but at least I'm taking control of things where I can.


And speaking of oil company profits, I am confident if you were a shareholder in X Oil Company, you wouldn't be bitching about "their profits," would you? Especially when that dividend check arrived in the mail


Right, but that's a pretty bad argument, considering I'm chosen not to invest in any oil companies. I've got no desire to make money from the kind of shameless exploitation of the planet's resources and environment that the oil companies promote.

What about you? I don't presume to know much about how you live, but does your attitude towards enviromentalism also have some basis in the fear that your way of life might become unsustainable if things do continue to go in the direction that they are going? I know I worry about that, and I think I live a relatively low-impact life. I think that for the average American, considering the negative consequences of one's lifestyle is an alien concept. It's probably easier to ignore or lash out against the warnings than to honestly asess oneself in the light of responsible living.
Gravatar # re: Damn That Man Made Global Warming!
by Braden at 2/13/2008 7:23 AM
"I've got no desire to make money from the kind of shameless exploitation of the planet's resources and environment that the oil companies promote"

That right there spoke volumes, my friend. So you anti-Capitalist, too? I never would of guessed.

Next, you said:

"What about you? I don't presume to know much about how you live, but does your attitude towards enviromentalism also have some basis in the fear that your way of life might become unsustainable if things do continue to go in the direction that they are going?"

You spelled "environmentalism" wrong, Jake.

Yes, my attitude does have some basis in fear. Why? Because those who push global warming want us all to change OUR lives all the while they continue to live their plush lifestyles. I also wonder what kind of power these same people crave, and let us not forget about the money they're making from it, isn't that right Al Gore? And finally, because every time we try to make progress in energy independence, the environmentalists (along with their huge influence they have over our lawmakers in Washington) shut it down. Like I said, windmills are no good, nuclear power is not safe, coal is dirty, natural gas isn't efficient enough, same with solar power, the list goes on and on. We could all be driving Tesla Roadsters (100% electric driven), and that still wouldn't be good enough due to the "carbon footprint" generated in charging the vehicle. The funny thing is, most environmentalists themselves don't practice what they preach; Al Gore and those like him particularly come to mind. So that being said, if what Al Gore and those like him think the notion of global warming is so alarming, why don't they practice everything they're preaching? Unless of course, it's all about making that dollar....nah...couldn't be that, could it? Never.

And then you said:

"It's probably easier to ignore or lash out against the warnings than to honestly asess oneself in the light of responsible living."

You now spelled "assess" wrong, Jake. Moving on:

Pardon me, but what exactly do you consider responsible living, and more importantly, are you willing to grant the government even more powers in deciding what "responsible" living constitutes?

Why do I get the feeling you're not willing to reveal what you're really all about, Jake?
Gravatar # re: stuff
by AxsDeny at 2/13/2008 2:31 PM
I've enjoyed the back and forth! Since Braden pointed out spelling mistakes I thought you guys were done. However, Rule 474 of Flaming has something called The Ullman Exception. I shall call upon that exception to Braden's invocation of 474.

"I never would of guessed."


Braden, you've been making this mistake in your blog since I started reading it. Please stop doing it. If you don't know what you are doing wrong, please look up the difference between the word "of" and "have," then look at the use of the contraction "would've" versus the non-sensical phrase "would of." A spelling mistake is something that happens inadvertently. The continual use of poor grammar is ignorance of the English language.

"Period. The end. Heh.."


Not that either of you care or would agree with what I think, but I see the multiple viewpoints that are being discussed and I lie somewhere in the middle. Not the exact middle mind you, but somewhere in between the two stances.

I see that there are thousands and thousands of scientists that agree that our planet is warming. This is something that can be proven. What cannot be proven is whether emissions that are caused directly or indirectly by humans are a mitigating factor in climate change. I say that it cannot be proven, but there is certainly a large amount of research that indicates that our actions are promoting the change. I tend to believe that we are capable of making changes to the climate, albeit at a very small rate. Unfortunately, even at a very small rate of climate change we end up getting ourselves into trouble.

My biggest concern is that people have a feeling of false security in our one-time-consumption society. The status quo is not doing us any favors in our health and welfare. The thoughtless pollution of water, air, and earth is something that isn't really in our best interest. What I don't understand is the obstinate nature of some folks in their opposition of a simpler, cleaner lifestyle. This has nothing to do with Al Gore or any other advocate. Pollution is bad for you. Period. If people think that's untrue then I would be happy to offer them a swim in the creeks in my hometown that are the color of rust due to sulfur drainage from strip mining.

Reducing your carbon footprint (I hate that phrase) doesn't mean life must end. It's a call to reduce unnecessary consumption. I do this by not using plastic grocery bags, by using natural means in dealing with my lawn, and other simple things that don't cause much more hassle in my life. This is a start for me. It's far from perfect. Ideally, I'd live in a place where we had 300+ days of sunshine. I'd be the first in line for solar cells on my house. If the work that the people at Nanosolar are doing ends up being viable, I'll be there. The nice part about something like that is the idea that it works out economically in the long run for the individual. The same economics work for using LED lighting or buying triple paned windows. There are lots of examples for larger changes, but I believe that the small things are what add up.

On a separate note, your jab at Jake being anti-capitalist is a ridiculous statement. He's making a moral decision to not invest in something he is against. The porn industry is a 10 billion dollar industry. I don't believe that women and men should be exploited for such profit. I don't support that industry with investment dollars. By your logic, I'm against capitalism.

Being rude isn't necessary in an attempt at informed debate and topical discussion. It's fun, but certainly doesn't help anyone gain ground or become informed.
Gravatar # re: Damn That Man Made Global Warming!
by Braden at 2/13/2008 5:23 PM
Dang, Deny. You're rough. I guess I'll refer to you when I need my grammar checked from now on.

And forgive me if I dare say you have a lot of balls to insult me within my own "domain," especially since you were never part of the discussion between Jake and myself in the first place. But feel free to make yourself feel somehow smarter than me just because I made a grammar error(s). I guess my attempt at sarcasm much like some other people backfired on me, huh?

And If I have been making this mistake in my blog since you have been reading it, why wait until now to point out my errors?

Thanks for pointing out my grammar error(s) nonetheless.

By the way, "Hewked On Fonix Werked Fer Me"
Gravatar # re: Damn That Man Made Global Warming!
by Braden at 2/13/2008 5:32 PM
Oh shit! I made a mistake! Deny, don't flame at me, okay?

"And If I have been making this mistake in my blog since you have been reading it, why wait until now to point out my errors?"

Minus the capitalization on the second word in the above sentence; it should be a small "i."

Dang, I really need to stop typing so fast on this IBM Model M keyboard. ;)

Gravatar # re: Damn That Man Made Global Warming!
by AxsDeny at 2/13/2008 6:30 PM
I don’t feel smarter than you. I would never claim that. I know very little about you.

LOL. No worries. I wouldn't have said anything if you hadn't pulled out 474. ;)

Anyway, that's unrelated to the discussion. I have an honest interest in what your thoughts are about conservation, reuse, and our age of one-use consumption. You don't have to agree or disagree with what I've said. My post was only an attempted observation on how I live my life. I hope that I was able to convey that without rhetoric.
Gravatar # re: Damn That Man Made Global Warming!
by Braden at 2/13/2008 7:17 PM
No biggie, man. In case you haven't noticed, I am a sarcastic s.o.b. when it comes to debating others over political issues.

Don't take what I say personally, ever. But just know that I'm always right. ;-)
Gravatar # re: Damn That Man Made Global Warming!
by Braden at 2/16/2008 10:57 PM
I noticed that Jake is on Deny's blogroll. I guess Jake couldn't fight his own battle.

I suppose Deny's actions pretty much speak for themselves.
Gravatar # re: Damn That Man Made Global Warming!
by AxsDeny at 2/17/2008 10:24 PM
I'm not fighting any "battle," Braden. There's nothing to be won because this isn't a competition. Jake didn't call me in to help. I read your post and showed it to him in the hopes that there could be a real discussion. I stopped paying attention when the discussion moved on to name calling.

I offered you my thoughts as a response to an ongoing thread. I'm awaiting an honest response to my inquiry in comment 1113.
Gravatar # re: Damn That Man Made Global Warming!
by Braden at 2/19/2008 6:43 AM
Whatever you say, Deny.

And what exactly didn't you comprehend in terms of you wanting an "honest response?"

Surely I made my meanings clear enough in the second comment of this post (2/12/2008 8:55 PM).

Living greener? Wonderful! I have no problems with that. I just want to see those with endless amounts of money and political power who push the global warming scare down the throats of society set the examples first. Just ask Al Gore. And while you're at it, ask the rest of those who attended the Global Warming Conference in Bali, Indonesia. And how big was their "carbon footprint" in terms of how they all got there? Talk about hypocrisy at its finest.

Like I said, lead by example, folks.
Gravatar # re: Damn That Man Made Global Warming!
by AxsDeny at 2/19/2008 12:24 PM
Braden, you know I can't ask those people that. I'm not looking for rhetoric here, I'm trying to have a reasonable discussion. I'm not asking for you to point out the hypocrisy of others. I'm asking what you are or aren't doing as a consumer in the United States.
I go back to one of my original points; pollution is bad. I try to do my part as best I can and I've shared with you some of the things I do.
My original inquiry was:
I have an honest interest in what your thoughts are about conservation, reuse, and our age of one-use consumption.

Gravatar # re: Damn That Man Made Global Warming!
by Braden at 2/19/2008 1:09 PM
Deny, I know you can't ask those people what I said in my previous comment. I was just making an indirect comment to them in my own way.

Yes, pollution is bad. I am not disagreeing with you on that at all.

What do I do, let's see ...

The bad:

The vehicle I drive has a 27 gallon tank (which cost me nearly $76.00 to fill up this morning), I use a Toro 6 HP self propelled lawn mower when cutting the grass, own an awesome Echo gas powered hedge trimmer, as well as an Echo gas powered weed whacker/trimmer. I also cook on an outdoor gas grill quite frequently in the Summer.

The kind of good:

I do however wish to purchase a gas/electric hybrid vehicle later this year (I am tired of the money I pay in gasoline) in order to replace my gas guzzler, but the only thing I question about a hybrid is what happens to the batteries when it is time to lay the car at rest? The gas mileage on hybrids is awesome, though - at least that's what those who own one tell me.

The good:

My outdoor patio at home is lit entirely by solar powered LEDs (these particular lights are especially bright). Free power from the sun, gotta love it.

If I could run my house off the grid via solar power, I'd do it in a heartbeat. However, as you pointed out earlier, we do not live in the optimal area for solar power. One of my coworkers has a convoluted idea about permanent magnet motors driven generators being distrubuted to everyone who owns a house and then running the power grid that way or whatever he was talking about. It's a good idea if you think about it, but how in the heck does one go about that, and how does it get paid for, and who maintains the generators, etc.

Ok, I am getting off track ... moving on:

I replaced all of my standard bulbs at home with CFLs about two years ago. My primary concern with CFLs is what is going to happen with all of the CFLs we all bought burn out? What environmental hazards will they present when it comes to disposal of them? I assume CFL's contain trace amounts of mercury, no? Or am I wrong?

Oh, and I make it a point to never use disposable batteries in my portable electronics. I love NiMH rechargeable batteries, and I use them in practically everything I can - from my kids toys, to my shortwave radios. The only thing I do not use NiMH batteries in are my clock radio, smoke detector, carbon monoxide detector, and two wall clocks - it's pretty obvious as to why I do not if one knows about the chemistry of how NiMH batteries work).

I also make it a point to NOT waste water. In fact, I have a pet peeve about wasting water. It drives me nuts when I see people watering their lawns during a drought. I also make it a point to turn off the light when I leave a room. Why leave a light burning when the room is empty?

I try, I may not be perfect, but I do make efforts whenever the situation presents itself for me to do so.

Hope this answers your question adequately.

Gravatar # re: Damn That Man Made Global Warming!
by AxsDeny at 2/19/2008 4:28 PM
Awesome. :) That's what I was looking for.

I love the outdoor LED lighting idea. I'm a huge fan of LED over CFLs. I just got some LED strip lights for underneath my cabinets. They came in a 4 pack that can be configured individually or chained together. I got them at IKEA if you're interested. They were kind of expensive at $50, but the energy required is so much smaller than the previous solution. Total energy draw: 5 watts. They should pay for themselves in no time. If I could do it, I'd use LEDs exclusively. I can only afford to buy a few at a time though. Individual bulbs are quite expensive, but thankfully will last far past their economic breakeven point.

Our car gets about 23mpg and it's about 11 miles to work for us. Not ideal, but at the time we were looking to buy, we couldn't afford to live closer to work. It helps that my wife and I both work at the same place. We carpool though, so that cuts our personal usage in half. The university doesn't do much in the way of incentive to get people to carpool, but I'll have to take solace in knowing that I'm saving gas and, pleasantly, money.

I'm holding off on a new car for as long as possible. The new technologies are only going to get better. The hybrids are a great idea. The newer vehicles use NiMH rather than NiCd. NiMH is apparently benign and can be fully recycled. Toyota offers a $200 bounty on their batteries. [source]

I too have a gas lawn mower and I hate having to use it. My lawn is maybe an eighth of an acre so I'm considering getting one of the rotary blade mowers. My friend has one and he loves it. The new ones are so much easier than the old scary ones from my dad's childhood.

It's true that CFLs contain mercury. There's no getting around it. However, if we use regular bulbs, the amount of poison that gets dumped into the air and ground by coal power plants is _significantly_ more.

"At the Armstrong Power Station, upriver from New Kensington, about 150 kilograms of mercury were released in 2006 to generate about 2 million megawatt hours of electricity. Using these figures, over the expected lifetime of a standard 100-watt bulb (1,000 hours), about 7.5 milligrams of mercury are released. During the same 1,000 hours, a CFL with comparable light output is responsible for about a quarter of that, or about 1.9 milligrams."


It seems that CFLs can also be recycled. IKEA has a CFL recycling program. I'm sure there are other places that do so, but that's an exercise left up to the reader. ;)

If I ever build a house anywhere (unlikely, but maybe a retirement home) I would look into a combo geothermal/solar setup. Of course, I would do something like that somewhere like Phoenix or another high-sun area. I'm excited by the work that Nanosolar has announced though. Solar may become feasible even in our generally cloudy locale.
Gravatar # re: Damn That Man Made Global Warming!
by Braden at 2/19/2008 6:44 PM
Hmmmm..LED bulbs, eh? I believe I may like those better than CFLs because the CFLs generate noise which interfere with my SWLing. That said, I'll definitely check out the offerings at IKEA.

Speaking of SWL, it is time to fire up the ICF-2010 ;-)
Gravatar # re: Damn That Man Made Global Warming!
by AxsDeny at 2/21/2008 6:55 PM
Holy crap. I want about a dozen of these.
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